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February 13, 2006

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mikey

henry,

what do media companies trade for in terms of multiples of cash flow typically?

25x doesn't sound like much now. What is the cash flow multiple of MSFT, CSCO, other tech leaders now?

rem

Paul Kedrosky of http://paul.kedrosky.com/ pointed out that (and I agree) the Time article on Google might be actually more bearish than Barrons':

"Perhaps this is just me, but I found the Time magazine puff piece on Google this weekend much more bearish than the _intentionally_ bearish Google hit job by Barron's. The company (implicitly) brags to Time about turning down a low cost new $80mm revenue stream, brags about its obfuscatory strategy, demonstrates capriciousness in how it analyzes opportunities, and continues to generally show an over-reliance on centralizing all decision-making in its ruling triumvirate."

Victor

That Barron's article was the most atrocious bit of market manipulation i've seen in a long time. At the close of market on friday afternoon goog had dropped significantly, obviously because insiders aware of the article got their sell orders in before everyone else. The stupidest thing is that the article just rehashes risks that people already know about and makes the blindingly obvious statement that if a company misses earnings by 20% their stock will be hammered. Uh, what about giving the other case? What if they beat by 20%? Surely that's not possible. It's never happened in the past has it?

fCh

All in all, this is a healthy change in perspective; some people have been stating the obvious for a while. A story like the one in Barron's only adds some objectivity to the picture--since the preceding others might have been construed as biased or simply lacking authority.

http://chircu.blogspot.com/2006/01/can-search-follow-browser.html

Henry Blodget

On the media multiples question... "Cash flow" is often taken to mean either EBITDA, which isn't really cash flow (because it's before capex) or Free Cash Flow, which is. EBITDA, in my opinion, is almost meaningless, but everyone uses it, so here goes:

Per some recent Merrill Lynch numbers, the big diversified media conglomerates, newspaper companies, and general publishers trade at about 8x-11x 2006E EBITDA. The Internet group average is about 16 times, with Google by far the highest at about 20x projected 2006E. The Internet multiples, including Google's, are not out of line if one believes the current projections. But of course that's a meaningful "if."

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