Okay, not kill Google, and, really, barely even scratch it, but at least a way to make publishers happy and claw back some market share.
As Douglas McIntyre points out on www.24Wallst.com, one flaw (for publishers) in Google's advertising programs is that publishers receive no compensation for displaying ads that aren't clicked on--even when those ads are towering skyscrapers that have immediate (and unavoidable) branding impact. The advertiser is certainly gaining something from such ads (brand exposure, reach), and Google is certainly gaining something (power), but the publisher ain't getting jack.
So it's time one of the big ad networks started compensating publishers on a CPM basis in addition to a CPC basis. The per-view payment obviously shouldn't be as much as a per-click payment, but it should be something. Newspapers, after all, get paid huge bucks for running un-clickable ads, many of which are never even viewed (because the whole section is tossed in the trash).
This is where Microsoft has an opportunity. Inasmuch as it is already trying to build a branding campaign around its benefits to publishers ("Google wants to steal your stuff; we want to help"), it should create a CPM based network and start paying publishers for delivering eyeballs in addition to clicks.
I would switch my adsense-powered network in a heartbeat if I get paid for impressions.
Posted by: Rick | April 02, 2007 at 10:56 AM
As an advertiser and a publisher I have to say I agree completely - I know that I have received some CPM compensation from Adsense, but I think that's when advertisers specifically choose CPM on the network and in those cases I don't believe I receive per-click revenue.
I really hope one of the networks embraces this concept - my guess is that Google is more likely than Yahoo and MSN to try something new.
Posted by: Preston Wily | April 02, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Is Google too Powerful?
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_15/b4029001.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_best+of+the+magazine
Eric Schmidt thinks not:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_15/b4029007.htm?campaign_id=yhoo
Posted by: Victor | April 02, 2007 at 02:02 PM
This would be a great way for Microsoft to kill Google's reputation as the primary target for click fraud!
Posted by: Watta Harebrain | April 02, 2007 at 06:25 PM
One small problem with this theory - unlike Google and Yahoo, Microsoft has no program for 3rd party publishers to carry their ads. In fact they are quite proud of it:
I suppose that wouldn't apply to CPM ads, but first they have to get their heads around dealing other than "respected Microsoft sites."Posted by: David Hunter | April 02, 2007 at 08:47 PM
Henry,
Your "hybrid" pricing scheme is interesting but also quite easy to replicate. Google has proven that they're willing and able to launch various types of pricing concepts in order to gain maximium advantage. If MSN does well big "G" will follow along very quickly.
MSN would do much better if they tried to figure out where the market is going in 5 years - then build a product suite that stakes out a position. Some great vision mixed with a healthy dose of patience could bring them over the finish line. Where will the market be in 5 years? This is where MSN needs to be in 2008!
Posted by: Michael Stone | April 02, 2007 at 08:55 PM
>> I would switch my adsense-powered network in a heartbeat if I get paid for impressions.
*snicker* Me too. And then I'd call some Eastern Europeans, and arrange a proxied-to-hell 'bot guided tour of my sites...
I'd make out like a bandit, but I'm not sure MSN advertisers would like it very much
>> I know that I have received some CPM compensation from Adsense, but I think that's when advertisers specifically choose CPM on the network and in those cases I don't believe I receive per-click revenue.
I'm not sure either, but I think that happens when your average CPC drops below a threshold, and you are switched to the CPM platform automatically. That pays $2 CPM (from memory), and you get a different pool, as you say, of advertisers who specified a CPM campaign.
It's better than the "old days" when you could show 1m impressions / day and get nothing - at least now you'd show some decent CPM revenue now, cover your bandwidth / overheads etc, and make some profit
Posted by: TallTroll | April 03, 2007 at 05:25 AM
Henry, any comments on the EchoStar deal?
http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/03/technology/bc.google.tv.reut/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote
Posted by: Victor | April 03, 2007 at 01:33 PM
Already exists as an add-in for Firefox. Noscript and Adblock together stop pretty much all of it. OOps. Microsoft adds get stopped too! dang.
Posted by: Mike | April 04, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Hi Henry,
I thought this was interesting, even if the headline was a little misleading. It also reminded me of an idea I had a couple years back about how MSFT could *really* crush GOOG, if they got a mind to. Trackback ping doesn't seem to be working, so the direct link is here:
http://www.reluctantblogger.com/2007/04/how-microsoft-could-crush-google-in-one.html
Posted by: Paul | April 04, 2007 at 07:43 PM
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Certain if not all Christian Evangelists groups and individuals may dispute that idea as i would expect them to as there's just way too much religion in politics! but the core of this argument is a hypothetical that Google is indeed in the driver's seat to change the way old media calls 'business as usual.' i.e does business!
It is a war that's Goggle's to lose... and Business Is War!!
What i'm hopefully trying to espouse is the fact that Google is leveraging the internet as we know it to revolutionize the way the business of media in the conventional sense could be done and re-written.
I call it the First Innovator's 1st rule... 'first-come-first-serve' (rule of advantages) from a compendium of...
A little akin to early bird gets the worm.
(to be continued)
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Posted by: P- | April 07, 2007 at 06:10 PM
What is google also adds CPM compensation to its publishers before MSFT does it ? then there is no particulary reason for publishers to move to Microsoft. only it will cut into googles bottomline..
Posted by: RV | April 09, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Is iPhone gone the way of the dinosaurs before its official roll-out?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/01/apple_google_mobile/
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Posted by: P- | April 12, 2007 at 02:43 AM
There's an even easier way - just put an ad-blocker in IE:
http://www.startupboy.com/journal/2006/1/24/dare-microsoft-kill-google-updated.html
Posted by: Naval Ravikant | April 12, 2007 at 08:01 PM
>> just put an ad-blocker in IE
Interesting idea, never going to happen, or at least, if it does MSN are dead.
Why? Consider - something just over half of Gs revenues come from the content channel, their AdSense product. Since we don't know the exact rev share, we have to make an educated guess, and 60% is a figure backed up by direct experimentation (bid on a nonsense word in Adwords, target for it in your OWN AdSense, then compare your revenues to your expenditure).
Since Gs' 2006 rev were just over $7bn, the AdSense revs were at least $3.5bn, implying that the publisher community took around $5.25bn in revenue. If MS attack Google, they also attack that revenue, and there is no way in hell they can win that fight.
If destroying their web business became the only way to get a Google blocking version of IE off the market, we'd do it. Massive lawsuits, backed by people that MS can't bury in lawyers would appear, truly staggering quantities of vicious spam would appear in their web index, probably leading to further lawsuits, and worse, MS would mark themselves, forever, as a company no-one would deal with. They may destroy Google, but they would deny themselves the possibility of ever benfitting from it.
Yahoo, on the other hand would collectively come close to death by hysterical laughter
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