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May 07, 2007

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Peter Hershberg

There are any number of issues with Fathom's KPI -- something I wrote about over a year ago: http://searchviews.com/archives/2006/01/quality_score_k_1.php

While it is *possible* that keyword prices are stabilizing, there's no way anyone outside of the search engines themselves know with any degree of certainty.

Along those lines, it's worth noting that in January of 2006, Fathom's KPI suggested that keyword prices for 2005 had fallen by 16%. Google's stock more than doubled over that time period.

The fact that people continue to reference Fathom's KPI is mind-blowing to me.

Jason Jones

Peter - I agree that Fathom's KPI has to be taken with a grain of salt and I should have mentioned that in the blog post. Fathom says as much in their disclaimer: "The Keyword Price Index® should not be used to make financial projections or be considered a proxy for the financial state of the Search Marketing industry."

However, I am not sure if total disregard of their index is the solution. I use it as a singular data point when triangulating the financial health of the search industry and I think many other people do the same. I am always looking for additional data points. Is it possible to extract keyword pricing trends by using Google's Quality Score? If so, I would love to learn your methodology. Jason

King Troll

Henry, some interesting info I have discovered this weekend.

As you know Google search was giving me about 70% of my traffic. Sales were very low. Yahoo was about 15-20% with low sales. i been paying about $150/day between the two recently.

I submitted my items to Google Product Search. Traffic was not as much as search but I got way more buyers for free.

Let's give some basic numbers. Google/Yahoo Search =
$200/Day. About $175 from Google.

Google Product Search. Additional $100/day for free.


Yahoo Product search is a fucking Gold mine bro. The Yahoo shopping site. They charge $.25 per click, but fuck bro I've been getting another $300 average per day from it. I am about to try out Shopzilla too.

Maybee Amazon when i get time.

Peter Hershberg

Jason - Unfortunately, it's impossible to assess what each individual advertiser is paying for a given keyword b/c of Google's Quality Score (and the other quality-based bidding programs all major search engines are using at this stage).

For instance, Google may indicate that a keyword requires an initial CPC of $.25, but subsequent performance (or lack thereof) may cause Google to disable that keyword. Reactivating it may require a bid of $1.00, or even higher in certain instances. There's obviously no way anyone other than the advertiser and Google can have transparency into the fact that the advertiser is now paying a higher CPC for a keyword that appears to have a value of $.25. Conversely, there are ads that go live with initial CPC's of several dollars. Those CPC's can go down to cents/click over the course of the day as "value" is proven. -- Peter

mb

How many times does the fable of the declining keyword prices need to be debunked? The fact is, you really can't tell much of anything from the an index of prices of common keywords.

Not only are there other factors like the Quality Score, but there are lots of keywords not in the index that drive search engine revenue.

We've seen the keyword price index go negative, while at the same time Google's revenue skyrockets.

The index is worthless as a predictor of anything an investor cares about.

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